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ZeroConcerns an hour ago

Effectively single-vendor. I'm not aware of any ACME-compatible CAs that don't have pernicious limits on their free plans (and if there are, I'd love to hear!), and here in the EU we've even recently lost a rather big player...

dmurray 44 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

"multiple vendors, but only one of them is nice enough to give the product away for free" is not "effectively single-vendor".

The other CAs aren't prohibitively priced for anyone who has a business need for lots of certificates, in case Let's Encrypt disappears or goes rogue.

ZeroConcerns 30 minutes ago | parent [-]

> other CAs aren't prohibitively priced

Not if you look at the per-cert pricing, but if you factor in the cost of "dealing with incompetent sales" and "convincing accounting to keep the contract going", they absolutely are.

toast0 19 minutes ago | parent [-]

When I was working with Digicert a decade ago, it was expensive, but they also had knowledgable support and with a wildcard cert, they would issue all sorts of 'custom duplicates' by request that were super handy. No incompetent sales, but certainly you do need to make sure accounting will pay.

arp242 39 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Doesn't ZeroSSL do this? acme.sh has been using it as the default for the last few years. As I understand it, it basically offers the same as Let's Encrypt.

ZeroConcerns 27 minutes ago | parent [-]

https://zerossl.com/pricing/ suggests a 3-cert limit on the free tier, as well as a huge influx of expected spam...

arp242 23 minutes ago | parent [-]

I think that refers to something else (manual non-acme certificates)? Many other pages says it's unlimited. E.g. https://zerossl.com/documentation/acme