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chii an hour ago

> these are bad-faith actors.

what i'm trying to imply is that every single actor, as an individual, are "bad-faith" actors. That's why it's only when collectively can each bad-faith actor be "defeated". But when society experience an extended period of peace and prosperity brought about by good collective action from prior generations, people stop thinking that such bad-faith actors exist, and assume all actors are good faith.

> I just do not want them in whatever society I have the capacity to be in

and you dont really have the choice - every society you could choose to be in, with the exception of yourself being a dictator, will have such people.