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amrocha 2 hours ago

Good thing for you that you’re productive anywhere.

I’m not. I much prefer working from an office. I’m way more efficient and happy in an office than working from home.

It’s not a matter of mentality. It’s a matter of being in an environment conducive to work.

You would benefit from not assuming that everyone is the same as you.

ciberado an hour ago | parent | next [-]

At work, we have the opportunity to choose. Many people are like you and find that going to the office helps their productivity and mental health. Most of us (including me) visit the office only a few times a year.

I think having the choice is great. Although it comes with its own challenges, it works really well when you establish the right culture.

amrocha 41 minutes ago | parent [-]

imo that’s the worst of both worlds.

That’s what my company does, and none of the engineers ever come in. My manager comes in when he has meetings, and I’ll go in sometimes, but I’m usually alone. None of the benefits of collocation with all the of downsides of an office.

I find that office days work a lot better. Everyone comes in Tuesdays and Thursdays or something.

vladvasiliu 14 minutes ago | parent [-]

Your initial post was about there being choice. Now it appears that the upside of the office is the others being there.

I can understand that some people like the physical distinction between "work" and "home". My boss is like that, and he would actually go to the office during covid when no one else would be there. He lived alone in a comfortable apartment, so there wasn't even a question of loud kids / no space for a desk. It obviously never came up that we should also show up. He sometimes wants us to come in the office, all the at the same time, for some form of all-hands meetings, but he doesn't just drop them out of the blue: we plan these together, and they don't happen on a fixed, tight schedule.

The company has now moved to a "flex office" scheme. I was already not very happy having to go in, but you can imagine I now abhor it. Having to share desks with people who don't give a shit about office equipment, having to clean up the screens because they figure it's fine to stick their fingers on them and having to use shoddy peripherals... And it goes on and on, you've read it on every HN post on the subject.

Luckily for me, they don't really enforce this, and I can still spend most of my days WFH and still have a semi-dedicated desk.

But your post is the reason why many people are up in arms against this whole "the office is better". Apparently, it's only better if you force everybody back in. So it's not really about "choice", but about having one's preferences be the "right" ones.

zaradvutra an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> You would benefit from not assuming that everyone is the same as you.

So would you. A typical office is not an "environment conductive to work" for everyone.

Noise, recirculated air, lifeless rows of desks, bad company and a 2h total commute? No thanks.

amrocha an hour ago | parent [-]

I’m not the one saying people who prefer working from home are lazy, irresponsible slackers though, am I?

I just explained my experience. Funny that you perceive that as an attack on yourself. What does that say about you?

stavros 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Whenever I'm in the office, I get zero work done. It's great for socialising and catching up with colleagues, but abysmal for productivity.

amrocha an hour ago | parent [-]

That’s only because you go to the office once in a blue moon. If it was your daily routine you’d get used to it and be productive there too, just maybe not as much as when you’re home.

Did you work in an office before covid? I’m sure your productivity wasn’t abysmal or you wouldn’t still be working in tech

stavros 34 minutes ago | parent [-]

I go to the office around one week out of every four, it's not that rare. Sure, there's some catching up, but not that much. Mostly it's the continuous interruptions that are never time boxed, the way they are when remote.