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swyx 2 hours ago

brief career timeline:

1980s - silicon graphics / general magic

1990s - chief technologist, netscape

early 2000s - CTO Tellme (speech recognition)

late 2000s - CTO Metaweb (knowledge graph) -> acquired into Google

2010s - Google head of Machine Intelligence, Search, Gmail Smart Reply, etc, then took over Google Search and ML driven ranking (BERT)

2018 -> SVP ML/AI Apple to merge Siri/Core ML/all AI offerings under one roof

2023-2025 - led Apple Intelligence push

March 2025 - removed as head of Siri

Dec 2025 - retirement

would love to do an exit interview with him on the last 4 decades in building ai assistants!

-- https://x.com/markgurman/status/1995617560373706942?s=20

cv of his successor Amar Subramanya - 16 years at GDM - head of eng for Gemini chatbot/training. joined microsoft in JULY this year.. and now poached to Apple. lmao.

joezydeco 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I remember Tellme. They had an 800 number for free information via speech query but, of course, it was also for training ala 411GOOG. Fun times.

next_xibalba 2 hours ago | parent [-]

I miss 411GOOG. It was fun and felt like a cool fusion of new and old tech.

nostrademons 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Its purpose was to get training data for speech recognition. Once Google’s speech recognition was working reliably, there wasn’t much reason to offer the service got free.

dhussoe 38 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This is good context to add to the article, because he's basically at retirement age anyways. Depends a little on whether 1980s means "1980" or "1989" but with that resume I think he can afford retirement even if it's 1989 :)

eurekin 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This is quite a spectacular CV.

Now I'm weighing more on the Apple side for not making it better.

swyx 2 hours ago | parent [-]

the truth is ~none of us in the HN peanut gallery have any appreciation for what its like managing AI inside software inside Apple. it's less a technical role and more of an executive/politics/leadership role. im sure the disappointing progress shares a lot of blame and he was unfortunately the fall guy. estimated compensation $10-30m/yr for last 7 years tho...

1a527dd5 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

This might be my new favourite definition of "failing upwards".

satvikpendem 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Where did they fail besides Siri? The rest look like fine achievements to me.

nostrademons an hour ago | parent [-]

Netscape was the market leading browser into the early 2000s, corresponding with JG leaving it.

Never heard of Tellme, but it sounds impressive on a resume.

Metaweb was a good open-source fact database which subsequently got walled off once Google bought it.

Google Search works significantly worse now than it did under Amit, and I say that as both a user and a websearch Xoogler. (JG took over about a year after I left Google).

Siri is the subject of this article.

swyx an hour ago | parent [-]

can you substantiate "works significantly worse"? because obviously JG and whoever else worked on the BERT upgrade would disagree, but i am genuinely interested in contrarian takes.