| ▲ | OGEnthusiast 9 hours ago |
| It's unfortunate there wasn't more resistance by tech employees to RTO post-covid. It seemed like one of the very, very rare solutions to the systemic problems of housing and commuting in the US. I don't think it's an exaggeration to say that WFH effectively doubles or even triples your total compensation when it means (a) actually affordable housing and (b) no time/money lost to commuting, especially if you have kids. |
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| ▲ | venturecruelty 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Because there's a five-letter scare word you're not allowed to say that would be required for tech workers to have any power over their managers, but that sort of collective action is dead on arrival in the current milieu. If you don't want to go back into the office, you have the power to enforce that, but you have to like... work together. |
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| ▲ | alliao 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | even though biden's already left I am still quite surprised how little views his pro union videos got https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZpUD9KgYc4 this video was on whitehouse's youtube channel | |
| ▲ | VirusNewbie 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | no one wants to work at shops that actually have unions compared to other places. it's just silly to actually suggest it makes things better. | | |
| ▲ | AngryData 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I dunno where you live but in my part of the country getting into union work is the best way to prosper and succeed as just an average person. Maybe that isn't true for tech work at the moment, but union carpenters, plumbers, HVAC, pipe fitters, arborists, linemen, auto and factory workers, all make significantly more doing union work with better and safer work conditions. | | | |
| ▲ | AndyKelley 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | https://kickstarterunited.org/ | |
| ▲ | venturecruelty 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Yeah, speak for yourself. I'd love to work at a place where I can't be fired because my manager had a bad day and I didn't move the right Jira tickets around to his satisfaction, where I'm treated like a human being in stead of fungible cattle. I also don't want to go back into an office. Ever. But if people actually want to affect change at their workplace, instead of just kvetching, that's basically the only way to do it, short of praying to Money Jesus for another ZIRP boom like the 2010s (I'm not a praying man, but I wouldn't hold my breath). I'm just saying, if workers want control over their working conditions, they have to recognize the power they have. It's up to them if they decide to wield it. You don't have to, and that's fine! Enjoy your long Bay Area commute. |
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| ▲ | paxys 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Because these mandates coincided with a recession and the worst tech job market in a couple decades, and saying no meant you'd potentially be unemployed for a very long time. |
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| ▲ | zem 8 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | "coincided" is understating it; it is precisely the bad job market that leads to this sort of mandate, because employees have little choice but to go along. in a good job market companies are very willing to offer remote work as an incentive to join them rather than the competition. | |
| ▲ | OGEnthusiast 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Yes, it would require a lot more coordinated organizing and some level of pain, though I think the payoff would be worth it. |
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