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mso3i 9 hours ago

There is no tech leadership class.

Things have to stay stable long enough for a leadership class to emerge. In tech that is not possible. They are just leaves in the wind.

paxys 9 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Not true anymore. Every large tech company is now filled to the brim with career managers.

subulaz 7 hours ago | parent [-]

in case this is not sarcasm... tech managers != tech leaders.

most are one, some are neither, and a small minority are both. i have works for more than 20 tech managers in 30+ years, have managed technologists (ops, app-dev, network, infra, etc.) multiple times, and have hired and fired tech managers. i can count the genuine tech leaders+managers i've met on one hand. fewer around than ever nowadays.

simoncion 5 hours ago | parent [-]

> in case this is not sarcasm... tech managers != tech leaders.

I agree that being management doesn't make one a leader. Anyone who has been in the industry for five, ten years knows that a leader may or may not have a management title.

However. It has been the fad for many, many years now for Management to call itself Leadership. [0] This makes it slightly ambiguous, but not at all incorrect to refer to the "management class" as the "leadership class".

[0] I guess their little, tiny, incredibly fragile egos got overly bruised by the years of derogatory commentary aimed at clueless managers, and they -because of their tiny, inadequate brains- decided that A Big Rebrand would change the nature of reality.

subulaz 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

i understood that reference... and, like Wash, feel like i'm "flying" a stone at gravity's whim while i pretend to be in control. tech leadership at a lot of corps do the exact same thing most days. a good reason to find your tribe asap, get out of corp, and assert some control.