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tyre 13 hours ago

> OpenAI’s refusal to launch and iterate an ads product for ChatGPT — now three years old — is a dereliction of business duty, particularly as the company signs deals for over a trillion dollars of compute.

I think this is intentional by Altman. He’s a salesman, after all. When there is infinite possibility, he can sell any type of vision of future revenue and margins. When there are no concrete numbers, It’s your word against his.

Once they try to monetize, however, he’s boxed in. And the problem with OpenAI vs. Google in the earlier days is that he needs money and chips now. He needs hundreds of billions of dollars. Trillions of dollars.

Ad revenue numbers get in the way. It will take time to optimize; you’ll get public pushback and bad press (despite what Ben writes, ads will definitely not be a better product experience.)

It might be the case that real revenue is worse than hypothetical revenue.

shostack 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

But... They are testing ads.

zerosizedweasle 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

https://www.reuters.com/business/media-telecom/openai-plans-...

Apparently they've declared a code red, because competition has got so hot. They're definitely going to do ads, but they may have to put it off. They can't afford ads at the moment ironically.

https://www.theinformation.com/articles/openai-ceo-declares-...

darig 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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antiloper 13 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Absolute silicon valley logic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzAdXyPYKQo

dehrmann 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Pre-revenue gets weird when you're in the cuatro commas club.

zerosizedweasle 2 hours ago | parent [-]

It's going to be a race with the bond market.

gundmc 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

"If you show revenue, people will ask 'HOW MUCH?' and it will never be enough. The company that was the 100xer, the 1000xer is suddenly the 2x dog. But if you have NO revenue, you can say you're pre-revenue! You're a potential pure play... It's not about how much you earn, it's about how much you're worth. And who is worth the most? Companies that lose money!"

tyre 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I’m not advocating for it! But it’s real.

senordevnyc an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I feel like I've been hearing this same argument about unicorn startups for fifteen years now: they aren't monetizing yet because it's easier to sell the possibility than the reality. There's probably some truth to it, but I think here it misses the mark, because OpenAI is monetizing. They're likely to hit $20 billion in annualized revenue by year's end. I guess maybe he's holding off on ads because then he can say that'll be even bigger?

But honestly...he's not wrong. I think ads in ChatGPT, Gemini, and Claude are going to absolutely dwarf subscription revenue.

re-thc 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> I think this is intentional by Altman.

It's the other way around. It was a non-profit before. He even got kicked out.