| ▲ | hellcow 2 hours ago |
| This is nice, but I still will not consider a Framework as long as they continue supporting DHH and his projects. This post has a good summary of why he's someone I choose not to support: https://tekin.co.uk/2025/09/the-ruby-community-has-a-dhh-pro... I regret my purchase and would buy a different brand in the future. |
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| ▲ | pkd 43 minutes ago | parent | next [-] |
| I think framework made a misstep with this spornsorship deal. I still think they should be supported in their mission and you don't have to regret your purchase. |
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| ▲ | JuniperMesos 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I'm not a huge fan of Ruby on Rails either, but despite this I'm pretty happy with my Framework laptop. |
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| ▲ | A4ET8a8uTh0_v2 14 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Friend. You want to get off that high horse. I just bought one of framework's competitors ( long story, but basically doa item and I didn't feel like waiting until new year's batch is up ), but this incessant, childish insisting on focusing on something other than tech makes me want to do the opposite in the future. How about we judge things based on tech merit and not some pre-ordained acceptability scale? |
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| ▲ | jm4 34 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Nobody cares so get over it. The RoR sponsorship was a no brainer until DHH decided to post something stupid a week later. What are they supposed to do about it now? |
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| ▲ | hellcow 24 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | Simply say, "we didn't realise how controversial DHH was, and we will focus our donations/marketing/sponsorships on other projects in the FOSS ecosystem going forward." The fact Framework hasn't done this in the face of his racist, anti-trans and ableist viewpoints is what I find objectionable. | |
| ▲ | J0n3s1n 2 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | [dead] |
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| ▲ | pengaru 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| So which angelic vendor are you purchasing your hardware from instead? Do tell... I personally supported MNTRE by purchasing a new Reform and will order a Reform Next, but it's not yet a substitute for anything state of the art. (I'm not sure Framework laptops are even competitive in that space either, certainly not in terms of price:perf) |
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| ▲ | matthewfcarlson 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Who/what is DHH? |
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| ▲ | srid 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Sounds like you have a poitical clash with DHH. You are of course free to choose how you spend your money. Other people are free to ignore politics or look at counteracting viewpoints: https://felipec.wordpress.com/2025/09/23/the-ruby-community-... |
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| ▲ | pkd an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | That article spends a lot of words in trying to paint DHH's "native Brits" in a positive light but never mentions the following sentence from the article: > A statistic as evident as day when you walk the streets of London now. How is DHH able to determine nativity as defined by "being born and brought up" simply walking the streets of London if it has nothing to do with what you look like? Plus he even links to a Wikipedia page about white vs non-white British population in London and uses the non-white number. If he wanted to, he could've referred to the foreign-born vs local-born numbers too but he did not. I don't think DHH is racist, but he's so infected by the anti-woke mind virus that he's happy to parrot racist talking points to "own the libs". Whether that's any better, I'm not sure. It seems like the author has infinite rope to extend to DHH. That's not being nice, that's being oblivious. | | |
| ▲ | zozbot234 28 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | That isn't even the worst part. The real, actual problem is that this kind of hateful racist rhetoric is now being used throughout Europe and the Western world more generally (including, it seems, by Tommy Robinson himself) to support and promote the absolutely batshit insane idea of "remigration". Basically, this means that even if you've long been an actual British citizen, or a citizen of the Western country that supposedly enacts this policy, you can suddenly be considered "not native enough" as a matter of public policy and be subjected to severely punishing policies that reduce you to a sort of de-facto second-class status; with the underlying notion being that you should be somehow compelled to "go back" to "your" real country, whatever that is. Of course it should go without saying that this is a regression to actual fascist-era thinking, it's outright unconstitutional in mostly any of the countries that would be considering this (but of course that doesn't stop populist politicians from bringing it up, because why would it?), and needless to say, any hint of this being considered would have quite detrimental effects on any kind of underlying social cohesion. It's not just about high-minded principles, there's very practical consequences when this kind of outrageous inflammatory rhetoric is allowed to gain ground without very on-point challenges being raised. | |
| ▲ | smileson2 7 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | I'm in a weird boat in all this drama where I don't care what DHH thinks about the UK or the UK |
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| ▲ | metabagel an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | It seems unlikely to me that DHH wasn’t referring to white people when he said “native Brit”. Certainly, if that’s not what he meant, he could clear that up pretty easily. Has he? | |
| ▲ | joe5150 an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | I don't think this drivel helps explains anything that's not stated in very plain English in DHH's blog. |
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