I think in that article Gates does quite a disservice to the climate change dialogue because he does not even entertain the possibility that the most severe of the effects of climate change is going to be massive population migration due to extreme weather and agricultural failures. His comment that climate change is not going to lead to civilization collapse fails to elaborate for whom.

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WorkerBee28474 4 hours ago | parent [-]

> ... most severe of the effects of climate change is going to be massive population migration due to extreme weather and agricultural failures

Perhaps it's not worth mentioning that because there are existing well-tested methods of stopping population migration that are available to be deployed once supported by public opinion. Specifically, fences, warships, and machine guns.

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mariusor 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Maybe such callousness doesn't spoil your, or Gates' lunch, but it does most decent peoples'.

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kakacik 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Given recent results of democratic elections across most western world, decency seems to be overrated. Maybe you were voting against such change, but look where we are. Its not just US or just parts of Europe.

I don't have a solution, but to change people one has to start where masses are and how they thing and especially how they feel. Facts seem to be overrated too.

	▲	mariusor 3 hours ago \| parent [-]
		My answer was in relation to the casualness of the dude affirming that murdering unarmed refugees at borders is anything but "the end of civilization", I was not trying to debate the likelihood of it happening.