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abhashanand1501 4 hours ago

>In spherical geometry, the interior angles of a triangle add up to more than π. And in fact you can determine the area of a spherical triangle by how much the angle sum exceeds π. On a sphere of radius 1, the area equals the triangle excess

To all the flat earthers out there, this property can be used to find out earth is not flat, just by drawing a giant triangle on the surface, without leaving the earth. Historically, to prove the earth is round, people have relied on the sun shining directly overhead on wells in different cities. But this approach proves it without the need to refer the sun.

lwansbrough an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Once you internalize that flat-Earther-ism isn’t about the Earth being flat you realize that rational arguments are pointless.

To expand on that, it’s about community and finding people who share your interests. The movie Behind The Curve explores this idea and it’s quite revealing.

QuadrupleA an hour ago | parent | next [-]

And the ego boost of it all - being one of the special few who sees "the truth" that others are too brainwashed/dumb/whatever to see. Makes one feel quite important.

fooker 36 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

It's more about discrediting conspiracy theories to shift the Overton window so the real ones with the flavor of 'the government is spying on you' also seems crazy to most people.

themafia 11 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> relied on the sun shining directly overhead on wells in different cities.

It was just one city actually. The critical piece is that the city's northern latitude was nearly identical to the Earth's angle of axial tilt. Which also means that this shadow phenomenon only occurs during the Summer Solstice.

https://www.khanacademy.org/science/shs-physical-science/x04...

fluoridation 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

>Historically, to prove the earth is round, people have relied on the sun shining directly overhead on wells in different cities.

That wasn't to prove the Earth is round (and it doesn't prove it). Eratosthenes assumed two things when he performed his experiment: 1) the Earth is round, and 2) the Sun is an infinite distance away. By just this experiment he would have been unable to distinguish between this situation and the Earth being flat while the Sun being only a finite distance overhead (and in fact a fair bit closer than it actually is). Eratosthenes and his contemporaries were already convinced of the roundness of the planet, and he simply wanted to measure it.

>But this approach proves it without the need to refer the sun.

A flat-earther would just tell you that you're not able to maintain a straight path over such long distances without relying on external guides that would definitely put you on curved paths. If the Earth is flat and you stand at 0 N 0 E, how do you move in a straight line East of there? I.e. continuously moving towards the South because the polar coordinates curve towards your left as you progress.

teo_zero 22 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

> A flat-earther would just tell you that you're not able to maintain a straight path over such long distances without relying on external guides that would definitely put you on curved paths.

Do flat-earther reject the existence of LASER, too?

roywiggins 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

>the Earth is flat and you stand at 0 N 0 E, how do you move in a straight line East of there?

This is something that was more or less solved a long time ago with surveying instruments. You don't have to move in a straight line, you build triangles out of sight lines.

fluoridation 2 hours ago | parent [-]

I can kinda see how that would work, but it presents the challenge that whatever route you plan, it cannot go over water for more than a few kilometers.

roywiggins an hour ago | parent [-]

I don't think it would be that different than the arc measurements that were actually done, you triangulate a bunch of points to work out distances and angle sufficiently precisely:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arc_measurement

Sharlin 23 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

As they say, you can't reason someone out of something they didn't reason themselves into in the first place.

thaumasiotes 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> But this approach proves it without the need to refer the sun.

Only if you're happy "proving" your argument to an audience that never had any doubts. You can't use this argument to prove the earth is not flat over the objections of your audience because you can never convincingly show that any given line is straight.